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05-28-2007, 04:03 PM
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| | [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow The newspapers and websites are full with articles about Moscows surpressed Gay Pride from yesterday. While I have been recovering from my girlfriends birthdayparty-hangover (where we had some gay guests as well) on a datcha outside of Moscow, others were fighting for their “human right” to be and live homosexual.
I am not sure, if [...] Link to full article at Moscow-blog.com See the Russophile post: Arrests and Assaults at the Gay Pride Protest Parade in Moscow Russia | 
05-28-2007, 04:57 PM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow If Russians know whats good for them, they will not falter in their quest to try and suppress this type of activity from moving further into their public lives and/or government in that country. Its truely corrosive to a society and a nation on whole. It really sends the wrong message to the young and their understanding of what "Life" is supposed to be like, or rather should be like, as per the majority had known it and practiced it for decades. As the Ungodly sweep across the world like a wirlwind now taking everything in its path in these latter days, so goeth these types as the lead head wind it seems. Hold on to your children and their future until that great and glorious day, for evil is all about them now, and it wishes to destroy them at every juncture. I shall keep hope and pray for those who are suffering the affliction of confusion in their lives, and I will also keep hope and pray for those who seek not to be afflicted by such confusion in their lives. Violence is not the answer in any of this, but yet an understanding that individuals are sick and need help would be more appropriate in thought. Until these people are treated as people with addictions who need help instead of revolutionist, the battles will continue. All nations should seek to find help for people instead of allowing them to create havoc for themselves and others by encouraging them into a situation, inwhich one knows there will be trouble. | 
05-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow You do realize that most of the people there protesting were neo-nazi skinheads, right? That is not a group whose side I would want to take on any issue.
In my opinion, as long as someone's actions do not hurt someone else, it is their business. One action that does hurt other people is discrimination and hatred. There are many other things that will bring down a society before homosexuality. In a few hundred years, if our society is still around, I believe that our ancestors will look back on homosexuality like we do slavery. Remember that religion was once used to justify slavery of Africans.
A friend of mine was talking about his grandfather one day. He mentioned that his grandfather is racist and discriminatory against blacks. He called his grandfather a bigot. He lamented how this is embarrassing and that he feels sorry for his grandfather but his grandfather is too old to change. The conversation turned and this man started complaining about homosexuals. He said that he is not a bigot, because "homosexuality is simply wrong." I reminded him that it used to be simply wrong for blacks to vote, intermarry, go to school with whites, which just seems ridiculous to any civilized person today. I imagine that his grandchildren may look upon him with the same sorrow and embarrassment that he looks upon his own grandfather.
Anyway, it seems he is already too old to change too. | 
05-28-2007, 10:32 PM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow Hello .... Its funny how it seems to work very well for some whom try and use other issues as a way to justify a specific issue, even though that specific issue is not related to the others except in maybe having the same end response which can be found in a multitude of issues at any give instance be it maybe a right response or a wrong response. Its used quite often these days, this joining together of issues to strengthen an unrelated issue that some are struggling very hard to try and justify. Nope not a skin head or biggot here, just a concerned citizen about the way of this world in which it goeth. There are many who have become sick and have found some sort of refuge in their sickness that no longer heals the sickness, but prolongs it in hopes that it can capture many more along its path. This also goes for many other sins which are gaining momentum and strength in the worlds societies who are giving up due this new trend and justifying of or new refuge found. | 
05-28-2007, 10:58 PM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow You are right in the sense that if neo-nazi's like strawberries and I like strawberries that does not make me a neo-nazi.
However, these issues are more related than you would like to believe. That common thread is hatred and dislike for those who are different from you which are both characteristics of neo-nazis and homophobes.
If I was wrong on anything, it turns out that I might have been wrong that it was just neo-nazis protesting. It looks like some babushkas also took to the streets. | 
05-29-2007, 03:46 AM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow Smile > I guess I don't want to know what a babushka is.... No homophobe here and definitely not a neo-nazi, just a concerned citizen who hates to see his fellow man or woman doing things that are unseemingly and against the human bodies original purpose and or healthy operating procedures.
Enough death has passed by all in the world to confirm the worst in all this, and its time now to take responsibility for ones actions and rebuke that which is bad and promote that which is good. My hope is that people learn how to find God in their lives, or for some maybe once again in their lives.
Rebuke violence and seek the truth in all that we do, and the truth shall set us free. | 
05-29-2007, 04:09 AM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow That link is not anything bad, babushka is Russian for grandmother. That link mentions that the protesters were met by scorned babuskas. If you are not familiar with Russian culture that may sound odd, but to give you an idea of babushka power, if you are ever on the Moscow and and someone starts to bother you, go sit next to a babushka. Preferably one with the a medium to large sized sack of something heavy like potatoes. If she has to, she will take care of anyone who bothers anyone resorting to that sack if necessary. Even a hooligan in Moscow would likely defer to an angry babushka. A policeman might not intervene, but a babushka would. They generally will not have any qualms about pushing anyone around on local transportation or the street because they feel that they have earned the right and they probably have.
BY the way, since you did not know what a babushka was, I can only assume that you are not a Russophile, so how did you land at this site? | 
05-30-2007, 01:59 AM
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| | | Re: [Moscow-Blog] Yesterdays Gay Pride in Moscow wow... We need the power of the "babushka" to tame some of the mean streets and/or set some of the politicians etc. straight in this country once again. I am an American !! I typed into a search engine "Russian blogs" and this is what I came up with. I saw the news where the situation in Russia concerning the [Gay Pride situation recently] was the same as here, except for maybe there, it is a little or a lot younger of a deal about getting publicity and such like it has grown and gotten here. I felt that if Russia does not have the total gay out in the open setting going yet, then they should really think hard about not allowing it a full path to sucess. My thoughts are that Russia should, as with all nations, look into helping people get well from such a situation instead of faltering or encouraging it.
Hmmmm what does the babushka's think on the matter ? I bet they don't like men acting as women or women acting as men. They are probably to old fashioned for that just like me.
Just my opinion is all .........
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